Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50602 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66161 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2010 20:58:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2010 20:58:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.185 il-mr1.zend.com Received: from [212.25.124.185] ([212.25.124.185:49540] helo=il-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 12/00-00463-E5F10FC4 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:58:10 -0500 Received: from il-gw1.zend.com (unknown [10.1.1.22]) by il-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F5A504DD; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:52:01 +0200 (IST) Received: from IL-EX2.zend.net ([fe80::986f:2786:21dc:93fe]) by il-ex2.zend.net ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:57:47 +0200 To: Pierre Joye CC: Ilia Alshanetsky , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Andi Gutmans , Jani Taskinen , "davey@php.net" , PHP Internals Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 Thread-Index: AQHLiwviuNo+QHdN10+nuYhuTwQsF5OBSNCAgABg/ACAABLxAIAAkx6AgAACv4CAAAUhAIAABHCAgABiaYD///NOAIAAFaiAgAAMI4CAARf50P//+WqAgAA7/BD//+dHgAAG7SAQ Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:58:00 +0000 Message-ID: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4D24@il-ex2.zend.net> References: <73.C4.59959.876BBEC4@pb1.pair.com> <3EA67EA2-A9B1-4DFB-8A30-05B37BCA313B@iki.fi> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154B70@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290705653.7033.73.camel@guybrush> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154C3B@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290707707.7033.115.camel@guybrush> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D3910@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4808@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4B7B@il-ex2.zend.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > Only that it has no technical or features- > wise reasons to do so Substantial engine level improvements and a couple of new language level fe= atures (it's pushing it a bit, I agree, but not that much) > but brings its lots of risks with it. I fail to see how changing a version number brings any risk at all. > Leaving the very small conference crowd for a second: nobody never ever > heard of php6 before the total fiasco a couple of months ago. I disagree. Google for "PHP 6". I've received tons of questions about it = from non-core-community attendees to conferences. I've received countless = questions about it from Japanese and Chinese users. It's out there. If I = had to bet based on my experience with users, there are a lot more people t= hat know what PHP 6 was supposed to be than people who know its plans were = scrapped. I'll reply to some of your personal rant in person. It doesn't belong here= ... Zeev