Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50588 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29269 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2010 17:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2010 17:21:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.42 mail-fx0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.42] ([209.85.161.42:63151] helo=mail-fx0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8C/0B-61791-49CEFEC4 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:21:25 -0500 Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1770858fxm.29 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:21:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eNi4nZNTORtj4ZMIITLnXCffgyhMdRzzliZrv1UUxqA=; b=mvl8iSvRtuLYh3kaONtgiP15Cb2YaU1xjiUmqmA/LEf02nTSEs9e6E+PMV4J4fcn2S mufMJiN/FFIJjicnSUFVifK+4H0E8jcX0XWRWeTJtmZtMxM9SnNvCFzGRnbgEF42km1M bIURNJPhpqEwnmKz43nGHsP5cbi2vDUnsaIGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NhxPsGgG+zZjCMFK6Tn8THJYbBKCtB+KqjGoykHsxI/VRLWw+EdI0QAbYyIAUWQ8nD CfEw0vRM7RbSyMzpt454xNEhUKZ4xND6bdkEkuuZ9BNbE48n8gSFB6ELgK0fv6uv4cmw UyWnKtgvyb4wY1YWHuhCg3ZL6gS14O04yN6IQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.137 with SMTP id h9mr2334369fan.54.1290792081629; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.142 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:21:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4808@il-ex2.zend.net> References: <73.C4.59959.876BBEC4@pb1.pair.com> <3EA67EA2-A9B1-4DFB-8A30-05B37BCA313B@iki.fi> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154B70@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290705653.7033.73.camel@guybrush> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154C3B@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290707707.7033.115.camel@guybrush> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D3910@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D4808@il-ex2.zend.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:21:21 +0100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Ilia Alshanetsky , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Andi Gutmans , Jani Taskinen , "davey@php.net" , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 3:03 AM >> To: Ilia Alshanetsky >> Cc: Zeev Suraski; Johannes Schl=FCter; Andi Gutmans; Jani Taskinen; >> davey@php.net; PHP Internals >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 >> >> That can always be done later. > > Why do it later if we could do it now? :) > > Can you share some of the major things you think would constitute a stron= ger reason to switch to 7 (or 11) than what we have in 5.4, that we have in= the pipeline? Wait, why do you want a major version for something that does not break BC, that only adds a couple of features (even long awaited like traits)? I don't see one. For a new major version I would rather first sort out the RFC, get the next 5.x out and then begin the discussions, designs, etc. Or are you looking to re do all the mistakes and pains we experiment with 5.3.0 and ex.6.0.0? I won't go down this way. About the "let drop the number 6" thing, that's just plain marketing and really, that's the least problem our users have, or that we have. Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org