Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50584 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52334 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2010 10:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2010 10:00:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:57771] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D9/52-28584-D358FEC4 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 05:00:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (xdebug.org [127.0.0.1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63F32DE13E; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:00:27 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:00:27 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.derickrethans.nl To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen cc: Zeev Suraski , =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , Andi Gutmans , Jani Taskinen , "davey@php.net" , PHP Internals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <73.C4.59959.876BBEC4@pb1.pair.com> <3EA67EA2-A9B1-4DFB-8A30-05B37BCA313B@iki.fi> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154B70@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290705653.7033.73.camel@guybrush> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154C3B@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290707707.7033.115.camel@guybrush> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D3910@il-ex2.zend.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323329-1570709512-1290765627=:4718" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) --8323329-1570709512-1290765627=:4718 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > 2010/11/25 Zeev Suraski : > > I think that skipping to a major version is a good idea. > > > > Two key reasons I think that: > > > > 1. =C2=A0It'll help us break the evil spell of the 6 version number.=20 > > =C2=A0Honestly, I'm not so certain we'll have major engine rewrites the= =20 > > size of what we've seen in PHP 3/4/5 going forward. =C2=A0Sure, I have = a=20 > > track record for saying that in the past before PHP 5, but this time=20 > > I *really* think we've reached an evolutionary stage :). =C2=A0Even if= =20 > > I'm wrong and we'd have a major rewrite happening, I don't think any=20 > > of us is seeing it any time soon. >=20 > I also think that its appealing to skip to version 6 to break that > spell once and for all. I think it's a bad idea. We'd just be scaring users because "new major=20 version" =3D break. We're not breaking a thing (or atleast, try not to).=20 And think about distrbutions that'd want to wait til 6.1 or something. We should reserve major versions for BC breaks. Just like we've always=20 done. I don't see the point of changing this, as it feels to me that you=20 just want to change it because you want to change it. Now, *if*, we would introduce breaking changes, skipping 6 might be a=20 good plan (and go straight to 7), but I don't see any sort of compelling=20 reason why you'd want to go to 6/7 now. Derick --=20 http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug --8323329-1570709512-1290765627=:4718--