Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50582 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4893 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2010 01:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2010 01:02:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.68 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.68 mail-fx0-f68.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.68] ([209.85.161.68:37591] helo=mail-fx0-f68.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 56/E4-16484-E370FEC4 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:02:55 -0500 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so344203fxm.11 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:02:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xIxdOz8cI6vKYr/FMw9cD7r6ZsEo6dHufjb5Jw9q1KI=; b=UzRirAL5qR2MWlHJWe6NXCuJ9hwXu1c3QwamQAgsUQDtnzDAvMcZvVEbcSjciSabRE nSLqGYo72rxvF4l+0Ieb6qIPg0cDaBF6eoZCgg8RlQi0eF3XgYv0Nyfee+uBi/hsIpZB qqVtKDOmx1KmZxxUCfiwVOUcWpwSkSKoMMpbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tviANTC02BiuX3bZ3z9GuGNsV9Sy3ncVsVTFqzcf987ErJNN7AJFXVXJq5e3//h5+4 /KkFtI4G5QAObzQtdPs4VgOfKzs5deXzrawTYn2mKG3wXslDGj8/ukNMN1egQPq14jQ7 reMvGVKPUg4W7k0K2LKRgJ0yTUKt8/bpESoA0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.125.136 with SMTP id y8mr1407960far.149.1290733371610; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.142 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:02:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <73.C4.59959.876BBEC4@pb1.pair.com> <3EA67EA2-A9B1-4DFB-8A30-05B37BCA313B@iki.fi> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154B70@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290705653.7033.73.camel@guybrush> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9154C3B@US-EX2.zend.net> <1290707707.7033.115.camel@guybrush> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5D3910@il-ex2.zend.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:02:51 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ilia Alshanetsky Cc: Zeev Suraski , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Andi Gutmans , Jani Taskinen , "davey@php.net" , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) That can always be done later. Even if I don't think users care much about 6 or 7 being the version for the next major release. However for what I can read or hear, they care about traits and many of the points described in the RFC. Maybe we could focus on getting the RFC sorted out and figure out what can or should remain in a 5.4 release. We are almost ready to go with it, a matter of weeks. I fear that a major release is something we are not able to deal with right now. Then we can begin with the next major (call it php 11 if we like to, does not really matter ;) version. There are still plenty of work for it (we all have in mind at least one thing). On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > I don't think the version # makes that much of a difference, but > rather what is in it. That said, people have made a good point that > jumping to something like 7, would allow us to skip the baggage > associated with PHP6, which seems like a fairly compelling argument to > me. > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>> I think that skipping to a major version is a good idea. >> >> It is appealing but not a good idea. I think it is better to get 5.4 >> with the features we like in it and then consider a major version. >> There are quite a few things that we could add or changethat would >> justify a major version (without opening one of our pandora's boxes >> right now :). >> >> As of versioning scheme, yes, a clear and documented one is the way. >> Anything we can add to the RFC to clarify this would be welcome. Maybe >> start a new thread, it is getting hard to follow each topic. >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Pierre >> >> @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org