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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4
From: jani.taskinen@iki.fi (Jani Taskinen)


Is it just unusually cold weather for this time of year or did the hell
just freeze over? :-o

Couldn't agree more on both points and I had the same thoughts about 
getting stuck with 5.x releases forever. And not getting any release out 
soon from trunk if this thread drags on too long.

Maybe even skip 6 like Andi proposed and declare that from now even 
major versions are never released. Only prime numbers count. 7 is a 
prime number and it's the lucky one too. ;)

--Jani

p.s. Somehow this reminds me of one particular discussion in around 2001 
about the versioning scheme.. :D


25.11.2010 23:56, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> I think that skipping to a major version is a good idea.
>
> Two key reasons I think that:
>
> 1.  It'll help us break the evil spell of the 6 version number.
> Honestly, I'm not so certain we'll have major engine rewrites the
> size of what we've seen in PHP 3/4/5 going forward.  Sure, I have a
> track record for saying that in the past before PHP 5, but this time
> I *really* think we've reached an evolutionary stage :).  Even if I'm
> wrong and we'd have a major rewrite happening, I don't think any of
> us is seeing it any time soon.
>
> 2.  Maybe it's time to break the notion that a major number change
> means major breakage.  Sometimes (like in Google Chrome), a major
> version can bring nothing but a few new features and significantly
> improve performance, without any additional pain.  Not saying we
> should go to the extreme of releasing a major version every other
> week, but once a year or once every 18 months is a very reasonable
> frequency.
>
> Can't say I feel strongly about it, but I have a feeling that unless
> we change our versioning scheme a slight bit, we'll be stuck in the
> 5.x realm for a very long time (and I do think it actually reflects
> badly on the way the language is perceived to some degree).
>
> My 2c.
>
> Zeev
>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Johannes Schlüter
>> [mailto:johannes@schlueters.de] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010
>> 7:55 PM To: Andi Gutmans Cc: Jani Taskinen; davey@php.net; PHP
>> Internals Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Hold off 5.4
>>
>> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 17:39 +0000, Andi Gutmans wrote:
>>> This is no different in the Java world, C++ as it matured or
>>> some other technologies.
>>
>> Java is currently at 1.6. (and 6 in Marketing) :-) C++ went from
>> ISO/IEC 14882:1998 to ISO/IEC 14882:2003 and is waiting for C++0x,
>> whatever the actual name will be.
>>
>> No good examples ;-)
>>
>> johannes
>>
>>
>>
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