Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50534 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76356 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2010 15:13:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2010 15:13:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:57989] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8A/04-55895-32D7EEC4 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:13:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (xdebug.org [127.0.0.1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9F2ADE140; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.derickrethans.nl To: Ferenc Kovacs cc: Lester Caine , PHP internals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4CEE7230.9040002@lsces.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] git anyone? From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > > > Derick Rethans wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Pierre Joye wrote: > >> > >>> Please not I'm not requesting to do it now and here, only trying to > >>> get a feeling/poll about git usage. > >> > >> I am not in favour; I will repeat what I just wrote to Davey: > >> DVCS is also a lot more egocentric thing, instead of > >> collaboration. You want your stuff exposed to as many developers as > >> possible instead of walled gardens. It might be easy enough to > >> share, but discovery is a lot harder. > > > > Ignoring the problems of actually using github I think this is > > exactly the problem we are finding with those projects that have > > pushed over to git. MANAGING what is allowed back into some master > > copy of the code base is the bit that is a lot more difficult than > > with current arrangements. The result is several versions of the > > same projects simply because people are doing their own things and > > then nobody knows which version to pull from. The release manager > > has to un-pick what should be merged and even on a small project > > this is time consuming. If everybody with their own agenda for PHP > > starts doing their own builds we will end up with even more branches > > since they will just be publishing them ;) > > http://progit.org/book/ch5-1.html > I think we could go with either an Integration Manager kind of workflow, or > with the Dictator and Lieutenants (that is used for the linux development). > either way, with good merging tools, the integrations isn't such of a > problem. Whatever workflow we prefer is not what is guaranteed to happen. I agree totally with Lester here. DVCS fragments the development team. cheers, Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug