Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50482 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8638 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2010 01:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Nov 2010 01:15:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.42 mail-fx0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.42] ([209.85.161.42:58774] helo=mail-fx0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/F3-12084-F98BDEC4 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:15:11 -0500 Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so321152fxm.29 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:15:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0YpCCziRf7E7fdH8PiHW6xRAxTrYMbpUB0WnML7fmWU=; b=ngdTBw2oy/FHcGmKJaYwPtaWXtlpjncmzKfUIddjfj1nfY1q1a3TL7CoVP8xdLNerL utm+3OPgUhVPeLP4B334+8NgGA0YYDDHGIGsQ0sHOQGvWo5DVuu8E3w4MGUwh7eWzKr/ oN057JN8wEG4kkGMfox3zWg4S/cEuFn6K4X3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=smANTpsfqQnK8DPL5GB8o5JPr+TkEZCnz9QtJFkJnjGrrmVE/9HjEvGSYq935Vh60n 8fyXvRZytkCFVRm2ELYdwcODosZ2JWLNI3Uo3Y9IGivB0vXcuMs3BK150kFt+S8kgb+g eOPKk91W6cc8/hrq+R1RUG0m8Bf5Vd/GoaxBs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.72.1 with SMTP id k1mr60488faj.111.1290647708626; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.142 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:15:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5B099F@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C5C6157@il-ex2.zend.net> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 02:15:08 +0100 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: Zeev Suraski , Felipe Pena , internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Hold off 5.4 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, hi, On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> > To me this alpha would be a "this is what we're mostly likely going >> > to have thing". I wouldn't like to see new major features, engine >> > rework being done; but I also think we shouldn't try to remove stuff >> > from it unless really necessary. >> >> If that's the case, count me in those who oppose the release of the current codebase as an alpha. > > I find it interesting that apparently so many people don't want a new > PHP version out, but forget to say what they think needs fixing. Instead > of opposing, can we not do just some work? I do want a new PHP release. I do want a clear, transparent, honest process to decide which features get in, to select the release managers and to get the release out. It also happens that I do some work as well. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org