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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:35:14 +0100
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To: Felipe Pena <felipensp@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Hold off 5.4
From: patrickallaert@php.net (Patrick ALLAERT)

2010/11/23 Felipe Pena <felipensp@gmail.com>:
> Given the current state of trunk, I think 5.4 release process should
> not begin tomorrow (alpha or whatever other status). There are
> numerous identified issues that we need to fix before even think to
> begin with a release. For example:
>
> - type hinting (or strict hinting)
> - no consensus
> - the RFCs are unclear
> - BC break introduced
> . classes named as any of the type hint scalar types
> do not work anymore
> aka class int {}
>
> - Traits may not be ready yet for pre-release
> - see http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=298348
> - APC support
>
> - There are many changes not BC with 5.x, as we allowed them for the
> development tree, before 5.4 was even a topic
>
> - APC is not yet bundled. Having the opcode bundle can raise issues by
> one or another, we should have it in from the very 1st release
>
> - pecl/http was planned to be bundled. What's the status?
>
> We also have no plan about what will or will not be 5.4. This looks
> familiar, this is exactly how we begun 5.3 and it tooks literally
> years to be released. There is also actually no agreement to begin
> with 5.4 now.
>
> 5.4 should be hold off until we solved the listed issues and the
> release management RFC gets discussed and hopefully approved.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Felipe Pena
>

Nor do we have a clear roadmap concerning the removal of magic quotes!
Most would like to get rid of them, but some have concerns about doing
it in 5.4.
(Please, use the "Magic quotes in trunk" thread to comment on this
one: http://news.php.net/php.internals/50301)

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