Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50416 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1759 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2010 01:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2010 01:31:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=felipensp@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=felipensp@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: felipensp@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.42 mail-fx0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.42] ([209.85.161.42:45129] helo=mail-fx0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 11/27-59959-7591BEC4 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:31:04 -0500 Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so234939fxm.29 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:30:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=W6PIDIzYOJmG0MzY1EZO6DO8/r022BrfdPDszLvT+YM=; b=XCYjKvWNv9dsApOoigOVjoJmR5E2LcLVWEjCADIZPf/XhpfRdk6+HecEcSxaodSiaJ 9Wkga5oMILHWn34dBx2dSwuxda4T+D2bXlWWrtSnjKDe3iVDdLI4wsyPt+re+VLaIFr/ e8EmPhso67cPeHVl7Il7xT9zwij6T0eDP87Rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=AlDj4OWinbYqYchaVe9ovSo5z06S9UEz/8N7+yK5kxsXnJKg14dN68He2kAXz/TLNi B7d0VM5vXEAaejgfpswFVRCNrsrE1jwbnPzpBKb+eoTBoUnp746EPPzsv4kFvwq/L5tW cenm2X3bwhIpLHDv1iRN7FMyIeslZ8Gl90hZs= Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr4852544faq.51.1290475834436; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:30:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.146 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:30:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:30:13 -0200 Message-ID: To: internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eef065b3eaf30495ae5198 Subject: Hold off 5.4 From: felipensp@gmail.com (Felipe Pena) --001636eef065b3eaf30495ae5198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Given the current state of trunk, I think 5.4 release process should not begin tomorrow (alpha or whatever other status). There are numerous identified issues that we need to fix before even think to begin with a release. For example: - type hinting (or strict hinting) - no consensus - the RFCs are unclear - BC break introduced . classes named as any of the type hint scalar types do not work anymore aka class int {} - Traits may not be ready yet for pre-release - see http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=298348 - APC support - There are many changes not BC with 5.x, as we allowed them for the development tree, before 5.4 was even a topic - APC is not yet bundled. Having the opcode bundle can raise issues by one or another, we should have it in from the very 1st release - pecl/http was planned to be bundled. What's the status? We also have no plan about what will or will not be 5.4. This looks familiar, this is exactly how we begun 5.3 and it tooks literally years to be released. There is also actually no agreement to begin with 5.4 now. 5.4 should be hold off until we solved the listed issues and the release management RFC gets discussed and hopefully approved. Thanks. -- Regards, Felipe Pena --001636eef065b3eaf30495ae5198--