Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50320 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78146 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2010 05:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Nov 2010 05:40:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=larry@garfieldtech.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=larry@garfieldtech.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain garfieldtech.com from 76.96.30.56 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: larry@garfieldtech.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 76.96.30.56 qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net Received: from [76.96.30.56] ([76.96.30.56:36602] helo=qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/F2-60012-13CB4EC4 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:40:02 -0500 Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YRcJ1f0031zF43QA6Vfyid; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:39:58 +0000 Received: from earth.ufp ([98.220.236.211]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YVfx1f00H4aLjBW8kVfyu7; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:39:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earth.ufp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DD6D7A66 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:39:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from earth.ufp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (earth.ufp [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VpxaFKoT8pYS for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:39:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from linux-nkec.site (unknown [192.168.42.1]) by earth.ufp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73502D7950 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:39:57 -0600 (CST) To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:40:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop; KDE/4.4.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <6628E909-5B8E-4FB4-A28F-ECAF7FCA27AB@roshambo.org> In-Reply-To: <6628E909-5B8E-4FB4-A28F-ECAF7FCA27AB@roshambo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <201011172340.37217.larry@garfieldtech.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Magic quotes in trunk From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:19:05 pm Philip Olson wrote: > > What are your inputs on this matter? > > I'm struggling with this topic. We must do something, but it's important to > understand that plenty of people unknowingly rely upon this security > feature that's still enabled by default. Granted 5.3 does generate > E_DEPRECATED errors when magical quotes are enabled, but is one minor PHP > version of errors enough to go from on to gone? > > So while those in the know (e.g., people who follow this list) find them > annoying and wish they never existed, what are the implications? I'm still > unsure how best to handle this situation but wanted to express these > feelings now. Whatever the case, the education effort towards data > filtering and sanitization requires a lot of improvement. > > Regards, > Philip I won't miss magic quotes if they're removed, but I can see the argument for saying "not quite yet". Off-by-default is absolutely necessary if they're kept. (Dear god, you mean they aren't off by default already?) --Larry Garfield