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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) support discussion
From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

Hello Internals!

For me, as a user-land developer, this issue seems as if some people
are trying to push the annotations at any cost. What they fail to see,
is that annotations are never described what they are and how they can
be useful in our developer work. Right now I, and I think many other
user-land developers, just fail to see what the annotations are
without any meaningful example.

Right now I stand for ditching the annotations and schedule to return
to them later, after 5.4 or whatever it will be.
Right now there are more pressing things to deal with in PHP:
* PDO is stuck in its development and mysqli & co are quite better developed.
* tainted variables are a huge bonus but somehow they are stuck in the
draft mode too (http://wiki.php.net/rfc/taint - hell, I wait for this
getting into the PHP for a loooooooooooong time and there are patches)
* Traits are mostly discussed and probably need finishing touches.
And these have a clear and understood benefit of being worked upon.
Annotations now are just a big WTF. The fact that only a handful of
developers reply to this thread (remember the type hinting thread -
there where tons of reply's from many people) just shows that we as a
com unity are not ready for annotations. Most of us just don't know
that this is and how it's supposed to be used,

Really, there is a ton of work to finish what is already has been
started and needs attention. Type hints had the same story as
annotations now. No easy agreement - ditched the discussion till next
major version.