Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50293 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67064 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2010 08:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2010 08:50:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:63900] helo=mail-gx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 05/B3-40885-35793EC4 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 03:50:27 -0500 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22so239717gxk.29 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:50:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T/BV3/CNU5qcskNWZqr+gr8G8r8OrZjNso9fAkKsxMk=; b=oWFNwhIhCAjWDoOyLhFPBrptneAa3T872VY9umy4PH5TPhU3wmAhLl8+5uifJbSnzH PtINFVabrpzL3XAn61r5YFJdiThgFpNYj/fSSKVJe5SZygQYShPuamJDEfcjAgRXL0qx 46ksM5xLB/aM8ISPitZ3sk8BXSmie0xeA7T8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=GkfC5BkFrOFFM791QpxLgKFMdZKJoNHmtFuFIw4dO0jUv9bHRRyx++eVR908t/yNRZ BqyUaORRO8mgLkvLRFGTA/W3LcXjO7Bzc6hZiqlEvVqS0U6hc3VB+E9pM4j5veUFxT+N TGI+ILGkzHgxkEdSJ9iLS2WJfm1nx+SD5/eH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.3.31 with SMTP id 31mr11140258agc.141.1289983823975; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:50:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.90.53.4 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:50:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9F3127D3-54B8-427A-BC8F-1D8D3AD4E2DB@zend.com> References: <4CE3340F.6090304@sugarcrm.com> <87.0F.25421.F4933EC4@pb1.pair.com> <4CE339DF.1020605@sugarcrm.com> <4CE33D54.8000009@sugarcrm.com> <9F3127D3-54B8-427A-BC8F-1D8D3AD4E2DB@zend.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:50:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: p3eNGFa8oJXa_vnbBJRJqDkVdbU Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" , Stas Malyshev , Alec , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363108439816d404953bc312 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) supportdiscussion From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --0016363108439816d404953bc312 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 4:29, "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" < > guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Stas, > > > > Ok, so you think I should just consider everyone want some sort of > > meta attribute support and start discussing the topics? > > Of course not. Assuming meta support requires substantial additions of > syntax then it's very far from consensus. > > A more productive approach would be coming up with ways to do it with > existing functionality (maybe with some minor additions), which makes phpdoc > a natural option to look at (even if it's not the incarnation of the perfect > annotations solution). > > Zeev > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > http://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/msg47732.html you said that before. and this is where the discussion started about the alternative syntax and implementation. you said, that you see the usefulness, you just don't think that it worths the complexity and the new syntax. if that so, then I can't see, why can't we move on from the why is this useful to the how and what should we implement. in the end, it would only gets in to the trunk if the prominent coredevs(as you, Rasmus, etc.) accept it, so I don't know why are you afraid continuing the discussion about this feature. Tyrael --0016363108439816d404953bc312--