Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50280 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5634 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2010 02:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2010 02:33:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=alecgorge@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=alecgorge@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: alecgorge@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.170 mail-gy0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.170] ([209.85.160.170:33357] helo=mail-gy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BC/E1-25421-70F33EC4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:33:43 -0500 Received: by gyg10 with SMTP id 10so952879gyg.29 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:33:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OtCzraULvtHmWaMvhiReDUmPjzgOQTUYzbN+9ccmDN0=; b=W9fP2xAuH2AqbjnIqKcl+NMUGGu76e8n4v9ae3simJewMSXKDoyDvea0bsbj6fpz4b ADJoo4kg7HfQ1QgQiQPbRKMXMhDGMJmMtkOaG/YGNoHtzO3Zf5//uS5t2uOh4Qy53fpw 6tMmDwCDUcWDd6PRKW9s7TS14OI2bJ9peXf24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RXulgtOgeKqwuTfWf7gryjMoZNL7KuW+wZMet9UuUJyRVEMwdtFgYloJLbbdwYZkg9 1ZgpvXbW6HQAk/W/mELpBvEgjySMpLzxWA7wMqHvPfMYKplN2ff4ypTHvjV5fV7uSPqh AzmBfbceRLpkn+eMVRdOxFezciSDM6LusOYUM= Received: by 10.100.13.2 with SMTP id 2mr5746364anm.92.1289961220160; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.130] (adsl-99-38-57-86.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net [99.38.57.86]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm5776349anv.26.2010.11.16.18.33.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:33:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4CE33F06.3080507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:33:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" CC: Stas Malyshev , "internals@lists.php.net" References: <4CE3340F.6090304@sugarcrm.com> <87.0F.25421.F4933EC4@pb1.pair.com> <4CE339DF.1020605@sugarcrm.com> <4CE33D54.8000009@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) supportdiscussion From: alecgorge@gmail.com (Alec Gorge) In my opinion (as a person with 0 karma), I think that sounds reasonable because most people are most concerned about the actual implementation (syntax, performance, apc etc) because I don't think many argue that Metadata doesn't have value. What are the 5 different discussion topics you are thinking of, just out of curiosity? Also, I can just post my syntax idea as a gist or pastie or something instead of making an rfc... -Alec On 11/16/2010 9:29 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Stas, > > Ok, so you think I should just consider everyone want some sort of > meta attribute support and start discussing the topics? > Should I separate it in different threads or put it all here? > > The subject is big and I identify at least 5 different discussions > that can diverge. > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> I'm able to write 10 RFC's, but none will care until we reach this >>> list with a patch. >> Not entirely true. Patch helps, but with feature this big and complex having >> consensus on design before actually implementing it may be better and save >> you some time. >> As for polls, I think generic "having annotations" poll is not very useful. >> It's like having a poll "should we have cool features in PHP?" Of course we >> should! The devil is in the details. And so far the details of this thing >> contain a significant number of devils we have to handle. >> -- >> Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect >> SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ >> (408)454-6900 ext. 227 >> > >