Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50272 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84584 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2010 01:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2010 01:54:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.193 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.193 smtp193.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.193] ([67.192.241.193:39371] helo=smtp193.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CE/1E-25421-1D533EC4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:54:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp19.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EADAC3C8A5B; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:54:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp19.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 8C1783C8A71; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:54:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4CE335CE.90904@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:54:22 -0800 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gustavo Lopes CC: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals References: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C59B588@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C59B6A0@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C59D788@il-ex2.zend.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) support discussion From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > I would have no trouble accepting a rejection of annotations on the actual > merits, but the interminable sequence of comparisons to phpdoc make it > clear to me that people just don't realize the potential of annotations. People do realize the potential, what you and many "+1" voters seem to not realize is the cost. You propose to add new syntax into PHP which is completely different from all other syntax constructs in PHP - different instantiation syntax, different method parameters syntax. It's a full micro-language inside PHP. We discussed it already, but somehow it failed to register. > Yes, it is new syntax and by itself that is undesirable. However, I see The problem is not new syntax per se. The problem is new syntax for things that already have old syntax. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227