Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50261 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1308 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2010 17:51:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Nov 2010 17:51:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nebm.ist.utl.pt from 193.136.128.22 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt X-Host-Fingerprint: 193.136.128.22 smtp2.ist.utl.pt Linux 2.6 Received: from [193.136.128.22] ([193.136.128.22:58861] helo=smtp2.ist.utl.pt) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D2/B1-25421-5B4C2EC4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:51:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A38B70003D1 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:51:46 +0000 (WET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.6.4 (20090625) (Debian) at ist.utl.pt Received: from smtp2.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.ist.utl.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id GGcQJW1gOPN0 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:51:46 +0000 (WET) Received: from mail2.ist.utl.pt (mail2.ist.utl.pt [IPv6:2001:690:2100:1::c]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F1D70003C5 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:51:46 +0000 (WET) Received: from damnation.dulce.lo.geleia.net (damnation-air.dulce.lo.geleia.net [IPv6:2001:470:94a2:2:dc38:b9de:61a9:b30]) (Authenticated sender: ist155741) by mail2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95B1820073B3 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:51:45 +0000 (WET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4CE28F49.9000700@toolpark.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:51:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: =?utf-8?Q?N=C3=BAcleo_de_Eng=2E_Biom=C3=A9di?= =?utf-8?Q?ca_do_IST?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.63 (Win32) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) support discussion From: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt ("Gustavo Lopes") On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:37:44 -0000, Chad Fulton wrote: > I also don't think you can discuss annotations without simultaneously > discussing their implementation. To me, it looks like you're trying to > force through a vote on a very vague topic "should PHP support > Annotations", and then use that vote later to force through an > implementation that many core people have already said is not > desirable. > > Many of the arguments that are central to the question of "should PHP > support Annotations" MUST deal with their implementation because they > add a large new set of syntax to the language. > > I doubt anyone would support annotations "at any cost", and yet that's > the vote you're trying to force here. > This argument doesn't make any sense. This is a common strategy for dealing with complex matters. For instance, in my country laws are first discussed and voted on the general principles, then it's discussed and voted on the details (possibly in committees) and finally there's a final overall vote. -- Gustavo Lopes