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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) support discussion
From: chadfulton@gmail.com (Chad Fulton)

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Lars Schultz <lars.schultz@toolpark.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I certainly don't have PHP-Karma (Does meritocracy really refer to that?),
> but simply I can't believe that you're talking about this, again.
>
> I think Annotation-Supporters have made their point, but shouldn't they let
> the PHP 5.4 Developers get on with it and let them roll out a new version
> instead of forcing them to reply to lengthy emails about the same topic over
> and over again. One could almost believe that you're hoping to drown their
> voices by frustrating them into not replying anymore, therefore winning your
> vote.
>
> cheers.
> Lars
>
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^ I agree.

----

I also don't think you can discuss annotations without simultaneously
discussing their implementation. To me, it looks like you're trying to
force through a vote on a very vague topic "should PHP support
Annotations", and then use that vote later to force through an
implementation that many core people have already said is not
desirable.

Many of the arguments that are central to the question of "should PHP
support Annotations" MUST deal with their implementation because they
add a large new set of syntax to the language.

I doubt anyone would support annotations "at any cost", and yet that's
the vote you're trying to force here.