Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50232 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90345 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2010 07:06:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Nov 2010 07:06:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.185 il-mr1.zend.com Received: from [212.25.124.185] ([212.25.124.185:35628] helo=il-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CB/BE-25603-77D22EC4 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 02:06:32 -0500 Received: from il-gw1.zend.com (unknown [10.1.1.22]) by il-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50938504DE; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:01:02 +0200 (IST) Received: from IL-EX2.zend.net ([::1]) by il-ex2.zend.net ([::1]) with mapi; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:06:28 +0200 To: Pierre Joye CC: "guilhermeblanco@gmail.com" , PHP internals Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) support discussion Thread-Index: AQHLhOfl9MJbL+eu+kOETclzWQJb4ZNzG8gQ///lxICAADEQ8P//4DMAgACcXoA= Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:06:27 +0000 Message-ID: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C59D788@il-ex2.zend.net> References: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C59B588@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A2C59B6A0@il-ex2.zend.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) support discussion From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:45 AM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.4 - Meta attribute (aka. Annotations) suppor= t > discussion >=20 > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > Suggesting phpdoc is used for the purposes mentioned does not mean we > don't understand what we're talking about. >=20 > I feel like you never used annotations in other languages, did you? You got me... But as an intelligent human being I'd like to think I can ev= aluate the merits of a feature without having to actually use it. I'm not saying that annotations don't give you any value. Sure they do. I= 'm saying that they come at a great price of adding an obscure branch of sy= ntax into a language that's already grown significantly in complexity, and = the bang for the buck isn't worth it. Those advanced developers needing th= at feature can make do with phpdoc. Zeev