Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50164 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52630 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2010 04:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Nov 2010 04:08:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=thruska@cubiclesoft.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=thruska@cubiclesoft.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain cubiclesoft.com designates 74.208.167.7 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: thruska@cubiclesoft.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.208.167.7 u15187375.onlinehome-server.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [74.208.167.7] ([74.208.167.7:2297] helo=mail.cubiclesoft.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 48/63-09545-B8DBCDC4 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:07:53 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.100] ([174.18.42.80]) by cubiclesoft.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:07:22 -0500 Message-ID: <4CDCBD75.2070909@cubiclesoft.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:07:17 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Development References: <201011102029.49703.larry@garfieldtech.com> <4CDC218F.4020309@oracle.com> <4CDCACB8.5040702@cubiclesoft.com> In-Reply-To: <4CDCACB8.5040702@cubiclesoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Supporting Binary Notation for Integers From: thruska@cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) On 11/11/2010 7:55 PM, Thomas Hruska wrote: > On 11/11/2010 3:23 PM, Jonah H. Harris wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Jonah H. >> Harriswrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Philip Olson >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> I just registered for Wiki access and am waiting for the account to be >>>>> approved. As soon as it is, I'll submit the RFC. >>>> >>>> Done, you now access to the RFC namespace. Have fun :) >>>> >>> >>> Awesome! Thanks. >>> >> >> RFC added. I'm not sure what the protocol for RFCs is, but I put it under >> the In Discussion heading. Sorry if I was wrong. >> >> http://wiki.php.net/rfc/binnotation4ints >> >> > > What languages are supporting this? (Besides PHP.) I'm not adverse to > the feature but if you say other languages are doing this on the RFC > page, please provide links to the relevant documentation of those > languages. Google is not being helpful - mostly just turns up this > particular discussion thread and Wikipedia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_numeral_system > > Mentions the notation briefly as being "common in programming languages" > but then fails to list relevant programming languages (Wikipedia > reference fail). I've never seen the option to do this in ANY > programming language I have ever used. But I have definitely wanted such > a feature on a few occasions. > > +1 for the feature and setting a new standard with an approach that > makes sense. Ah. Finally found something via Google. An ISO C99 extension not a part of ANSI C++ but accepted by GCC even in C++ mode. Learned something new today. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Binary-constants.html http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/C-Extensions.html Hmm...now I'm wondering which is more correct: The phrase 'binary literal constants', 'binary constants', 'binary literals', or 'binary notation'? (Rhetorical). -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Barebones CMS is a high-performance, open source content management system for web developers operating in a team environment. An open source CubicleSoft initiative. Your choice of a MIT or LGPL license. http://barebonescms.com/