Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50058 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46697 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2010 13:10:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Nov 2010 13:10:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nrixham@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nrixham@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nrixham@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.170 mail-wy0-f170.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.170] ([74.125.82.170:53381] helo=mail-wy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2F/B3-24094-F3CBECC4 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:10:24 -0500 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35so5843135wyb.29 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:10:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aEG7LVssYh6W+x+zNDrz4jSzEd1ayQEFnZKvpOC4TG8=; b=s703yWH0svjYmcz6TPm2/c343zMvCfZ6V5juiwb3wNkAABzcKVlOgimWIhc06Oa/Jj ZFSxdZeq1lhSHGW0QwTJ7JZw0RlU6nU9WMvaFE1lI5n1Br+i1T0VATLn+BngQqarfs6s ExUIsAsX8YQgd5D9bGwhgD8JQf4FE3iDzXeqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J9DvnZqUwhtaLvS7gYAFES1pq6eTde0C3RkkPDV+NkTZ6cV7yX8R1WORaMB99nOn+Y KRX9Z5DRrb9hqFA4SAW7fJXeG3qzZD0dd8JGccc7/1D4f9QB3Wl1SUK0LpaY0gaX8SAT jFcbeooKWcxEvBlMDjoIUQlH9nKlksG5F7LYU= Received: by 10.227.132.209 with SMTP id c17mr2464937wbt.24.1288617021012; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (host86-143-252-24.range86-143.btcentralplus.com [86.143.252.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b30sm5172194wbb.16.2010.11.01.06.10.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CCEBC2F.5050102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:10:07 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Vass CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <4CCBB87F.7090209@codeangel.org> <4CCBBB6C.5040802@lerdorf.com> <4CCBBC86.3020005@codeangel.org> <4CCBF85B.4090601@gmx.li> <4CCC4967.6060807@codeangel.org> <4CCC4C05.5080108@codeangel.org> <4CCC5357.5050905@codeangel.org> <4CCC7BBA.80702@codeangel.org> <4CCDAB94.2040300@codeangel.org> <3E0F036F5B444B6A897ADFB312524D02@pc> In-Reply-To: <3E0F036F5B444B6A897ADFB312524D02@pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON From: nrixham@gmail.com (Nathan Rixham) Stan Vass wrote: > It's amazing to me this has become such a long discussion. The facts are > simple: > > 1) People don't ask for the other parse errors even half as often as > they as for T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM > 2) They do so because it looks like gibberish to them, so it looks > unlikely to be a common thing you can Google, nor it gives something > recignizable to start with > 3) Yes, to all who are not sure, more people know English than Hebrew. > 4) Yes, we all acknowledge it's an easter egg joke that refers to the > creators of PHP. But that particular joke has outworn its welcome in the > community after repeatedly causing support issues. > > T_DOUBLE_COLON already exists as a constant in userland, so the jump to > it won't be an epic change. Let's do it as a proof that we're not a nerd > gridlock bound to argue forever about even the most minor and obviously > positive changes PHP can implement. Makes sense, just alias it and change the error message thus keeping bc.