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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [alexander.schrijver@gmail.com: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE:
 [SPAM]  Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON]
From: colder@php.net (Etienne Kneuss)

On Nov 01 13:43:14, Alexander Schrijver wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:36:24PM +0100, Etienne Kneuss wrote:
> > > It's the policy:
> > > > There are two reasons this term will stay.  It is a tip of the hat to
> > > > the amount of PHP work that came out of Israel, and it is a good                                                    
> > > > reminder that there are a lot of other languages in the world.  People
> > > > whose first language is not English, myself included, are forced to work
> > > > with unfamiliar terms every day.  I wouldn't mind having a few more                                                
> > > > non-English identifiers in PHP actually.                                                                          
> > > >                                                                                                                  
> > > > Well, and a third reason, I like it.            
> > > 
> > > There is some reason this policy will change after i write this new tokenizer?
> > 
> > Yes, there is a reason:
> > 
> > As it was explained before, lemon would not display token names but
> > actual token "values". So instead of "Unexpected T_PAABLAH" it would say
> > "Unexpected '::' ..."
> 
> But the lesson Rasmus was telling us about would go away. Yet, this is one of
> the reasons the token is being kept. I am confused. Are you telling me this is
> a lesson for the programmers to be learned? Not for the users?

I believe that what Rasmus meant is that a simple _renaming_ of this
token was not justified.

I don't think that he would be against a parser change that would
bring much more to the table, solely because it would make this gem
disappear (at least I hope).

But then again, even though Felipe did an amazing job with this lemon
switch, few problems still prevent this change from happening in a near
future.

Best,


-- 
Etienne Kneuss
http://www.colder.ch