Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50043 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95979 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2010 09:19:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Nov 2010 09:19:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sv_forums@fmethod.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sv_forums@fmethod.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fmethod.com from 74.125.82.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sv_forums@fmethod.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.170 mail-wy0-f170.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.170] ([74.125.82.170:35372] helo=mail-wy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/59-24094-3168ECC4 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:19:16 -0500 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35so5652035wyb.29 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.7.210 with SMTP id 60mr2444216wep.30.1288603151379; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc ([83.228.56.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x59sm3669501weq.38.2010.11.01.02.19.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3E0F036F5B444B6A897ADFB312524D02@pc> To: References: <4CCBB87F.7090209@codeangel.org> <4CCBBB6C.5040802@lerdorf.com> <4CCBBC86.3020005@codeangel.org> <4CCBF85B.4090601@gmx.li> <4CCC4967.6060807@codeangel.org> <4CCC4C05.5080108@codeangel.org> <4CCC5357.5050905@codeangel.org> <4CCC7BBA.80702@codeangel.org> <4CCDAB94.2040300@codeangel.org> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:18:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON From: sv_forums@fmethod.com ("Stan Vass") It's amazing to me this has become such a long discussion. The facts are simple: 1) People don't ask for the other parse errors even half as often as they as for T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM 2) They do so because it looks like gibberish to them, so it looks unlikely to be a common thing you can Google, nor it gives something recignizable to start with 3) Yes, to all who are not sure, more people know English than Hebrew. 4) Yes, we all acknowledge it's an easter egg joke that refers to the creators of PHP. But that particular joke has outworn its welcome in the community after repeatedly causing support issues. T_DOUBLE_COLON already exists as a constant in userland, so the jump to it won't be an epic change. Let's do it as a proof that we're not a nerd gridlock bound to argue forever about even the most minor and obviously positive changes PHP can implement. Stan Vass