Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50039 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74058 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2010 00:50:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 2010 00:50:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=codeacula@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=codeacula@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: codeacula@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.42 mail-vw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.42] ([209.85.212.42:36044] helo=mail-vw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 02/75-40062-85DBCCC4 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:50:32 -0400 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so177127vws.29 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:50:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=K1JYhCFd+gOxzEvxXV2irY334k4B0qI1XOB+IPmPD5w=; b=PyYlsRo6P9lNwhcG9pj7sNrGj/VIxtpyE1cXUX0e7riT7Qq1aS4XTniAtf6o8hE003 Ve83pKbynAwPLcyGlPQDLYC2UTRJ9xl7AzjfDmsvDE5U4SAGqC2dVc8lhMdqTgYANerb LGXM1OsS1EYRqGwCCzHzlLmj0DJY8rSTzIHNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HJ1wMUhvLtex5ZidJfVwZVAOJlrd2ylLKiQBWlvgw7Cs4gOnVyRDIB0u3h1SmrTdR0 qt5cBeurjYqW8hVXFeS70bjxQFTIAmMo28KKl7R+AKeebHfAC0079gAjd838IvR/h1Z5 rn1f4hcqRbwKvCaKvNNBjF94Wvm/0MzhT4yzg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.173.133 with SMTP id p5mr6475583qaz.249.1288486230088; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: codeacula@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.23.84 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CCBB87F.7090209@codeangel.org> <4CCBBB6C.5040802@lerdorf.com> <4CCBBC86.3020005@codeangel.org> <4CCBF85B.4090601@gmx.li> <4CCC4967.6060807@codeangel.org> <4CCC4C05.5080108@codeangel.org> <4CCC5357.5050905@codeangel.org> <4CCC7BBA.80702@codeangel.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:50:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: izc-HWbA-WfVq1VBbvMg80CaNTQ Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON From: codeacula@codeacula.com (Jack Timmons) On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chad Emrys wrote: > I'm not arguing about learning another culture. The argument is that an > error message that should be straight forward, isn't. You misunderstand my point. It isn't straightforward for -you- because that isn't your native language. Thus the cultural point. But if switched to "T_DOUBLE_COLON", then others who don't know English could then argue it isn't straight forward. It's an entirely pedantic point to argue, I agree, but thus far you entire complain was because it isn't in English, and you want it changed so you "don't have to hear about it constantly". The fact is, it says "double colon" in a different language, so aside from translation there's nothing wrong with it at all. Magic would be internationalizing the error messages, but then there will be someone whose language doesn't have a version. -- Jack Timmons @_Codeacula Trollfree: 8503290326