Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50021 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9425 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2010 16:46:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Oct 2010 16:46:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=admin@codeangel.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=admin@codeangel.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain codeangel.org from 216.119.135.130 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: admin@codeangel.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 216.119.135.130 a2s40.a2hosting.com Windows 98 (1) Received: from [216.119.135.130] ([216.119.135.130:48084] helo=a2s40.a2hosting.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 03/07-10139-5FB4CCC4 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:46:46 -0400 Received: from c-98-212-133-218.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.212.133.218] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by a2s40.a2hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PCEZn-0007mV-Nf for internals@lists.php.net; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:46:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4CCC4C05.5080108@codeangel.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:47:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.0.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4CCBB87F.7090209@codeangel.org> <4CCBBB6C.5040802@lerdorf.com> <4CCBBC86.3020005@codeangel.org> <4CCBF85B.4090601@gmx.li> <4CCC4967.6060807@codeangel.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s40.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - codeangel.org Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON From: admin@codeangel.org (Chad Emrys) On 10/30/2010 11:41 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote: > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:35, Chad Emrys wrote: > >> Most likely not, we don't get tons of questions about other parser errors, >> unless the person refuses to read the error message to begin with (Those >> can't be fixed, true. But this for those people that DO read the messages, >> which is greater number than what you guys lead on) >> > I have to say, you certainly are sure of yourself when it comes to > describing our opinions and actions, yet - aside from argue a point > that has little chance of succeeding here, as you can tell - you've > done nothing to give your point validity outside of your own > experience and interpretations. > > You mentioned how great it was that PHP is FOSS, and that you'd > only have to bribe whomever is handling patch reviews and submissions. > Another great thing about FOSS: your right to fork. > > It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I believe that my opinion has merit, and I keep seeing the exact same argument over and over again that I believe is not a very good argument (They can just google it thing). Some other people have provided other arguments as well and those are more valued. (Though I don't think they are strong enough reasons yet NOT to do it). Forking won't fix this particular problem.