Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:50003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26052 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2010 07:57:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Oct 2010 07:57:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: peter.e.lind@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.170 mail-gy0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.170] ([209.85.160.170:47987] helo=mail-gy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 92/40-24227-3DFCBCC4 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 03:57:08 -0400 Received: by gyg10 with SMTP id 10so2722635gyg.29 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:57:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hgpRVCQe53RVSFS8+lq3LiV7yitB3Wc9dYLOo1Jut3g=; b=K6ZpB72HejCu0oJXvdMXQ9Bxq0b+p+BGoCXfKCliHd/WlpmEcHBb9jolOwKdVqidiu Af0k9rahwt+yJUMpxmjgeb7Ppc949R31kvGw2ZgnAFD08WvMt7bBUzH2E1lc4eglYkiH ewg2ZZ0Ztng3tcJRC1pBciuOFWE0/5jKl2z8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Lq9HSR779XTGY80fTR+fb9sq52QqFDgNoLFHs4zyGSp607T/bgqLsYzhGf+eub/mGq mRrdD3NHApPVLautNAObew29QFUdTvb8KnI9Aw5sttNh6GQzrX8YWs+oKLTpr//gyvZE 49IhqnZPPywrkqpM3hUIFYc2hCQJopXUPZX7k= Received: by 10.91.103.1 with SMTP id f1mr5781719agm.182.1288425424054; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:57:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.9.18 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:56:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CCBCA92.1070201@codeangel.org> References: <4CCB6B21.1070708@codeangel.org> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C904CC19@US-EX2.zend.net> <4CCBBC88.5000904@php.net> <4CCBCA92.1070201@codeangel.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:56:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: Chad Emrys Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON From: peter.e.lind@gmail.com (Peter Lind) On 30 October 2010 09:34, Chad Emrys wrote: > On 10/30/2010 02:16 AM, Peter Lind wrote: >> >> On 30 October 2010 09:09, Mike Van Riel =C2=A0= wrote: >> >> * snip * >> >> >>> >>> (additionally I wonder why people ask such a simple question on IRC >>> whilst >>> googling provides your answer faster..) >>> >> >> Most of the people coming to ##php on freenode asking questions like >> that have a hard time learning (on their own or at all) - they expect >> to be spoonfed. Changing the token name might lower the frequency of >> this particular question, but it would have no overall effect on the >> number of people coming to ask questions they could get answered in >> two seconds by google. >> >> Regards >> Peter >> >> > > It's the same argument everyone else is giving, =C2=A0and really it all c= omes > down to this.: > > Nostalgia is valued over clarity and consistency. > > Do you guys REALLY want to claim that? > I wasn't arguing for or against a switch, just providing some background. That said, people with no google skills bugging you on irc is a very poor excuse for change. As for the rest of the discussion, both sides seem to have merit, in my opinion. Regards Peter --=20 WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk LinkedIn: plind BeWelcome/Couchsurfing: Fake51 Twitter: kafe15