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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:15:45 +0200
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To: Antony Dovgal <tony@daylessday.org>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Problems with iconv on AIX 5.3 and 6.1 - maybe a bug
From: mamfelt@gmail.com (Michael Felt)

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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Antony Dovgal <tony@daylessday.org> wrote:

> On 10/11/2010 10:35 PM, Michael Felt wrote:
> > As to 5.3 - personally, I have some oldish PHP code that does not like
> > some of the new defaults in 5.3 (as least when I tried when it first
> > came out). However, I shall soon do 5.2.14.
>
> I'd still recommend at least _to try_ 5.3 just to make sure it really does
> compile & work fine.
> If that is the case, you can start backporting AIX-related changes from 5.3
> to 5.2.
>
> I'll try it, of course. Just as I did when it first came out. I have even
tried the Alpha version, but not had much luck (then - I'll look again).

> > There is another AIX idiosycrancy I found. It does not like the
> > BUILD_CLI string in the Makefile. If I edit it into seperate lines and
> > put those where $(BUILD_CLI) stands, the sapi/cli/php program configures
> > fine.
>
>
Make sure you use GNU make and as much other GNU utils as possible - the
> native ones are broken.
>
Native make might be broken - but I understand legacy make (or is it POSIX)
better than gnu make. Sometimes I have to use gnumake (One of the packages I
port requires it).


>
> > Fun in porting :)
>
This is a poke at myself - and trying to acknowledge that I know it is a
very difficult challenge to write portable code.  That is why I hesitate to
call anything a bug. Just because it isn't working on my system effortlessly
does not make it a bug. And you are quite correct. It does get very
frustrating.

>

Well, I wouldn't call that fun.. it's more of a frustration to me.
>
> > Off topic I know - but how much interest is there is a more explicit
> > "debug" info of the BUILD_CLI issue. Personally I find it very strange
> > as it used to work fine (the string does not look to have changed in a
> > long time. I would guess it is some security 'improvement' in make or
> ksh.
>
> GNU bash and GNU make should certainly fix it.
>
> And, maybe I'll have to adapt my development system to use those. But after
over 30 years of using sh (the original shell, short time at csh, and the
last 15+ years using ksh - I dont really want to learn a new shell. AIX is
also my work, and bash is an option. ksh is there all the time. I cannot
demand that the people I support use bash, so I dont want to be overly
dependent on it professionally either.

I shall try gnu make and see if the problem with BUILDCLI goes away - as
gnumake already built. And if that does not work I'll considering loading
bash for a test run.

wbr,
Michael
(p.s. I had to google wbr!)

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> Antony Dovgal
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