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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:28:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On how a little knowledge is completely useless.
From: christian.kaps@mohiva.com (Christian Kaps)

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:02:10 +0100, Richard Quadling
<rquadling@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> In trying to follow the annotations threads currently running, I've
> come to realise just how little I understand a LOT of what I read
> here.
> 
> But, then again, I don't need to, so hurrah for me. I try to follow,
> but, #fail most of the time.
> 
> One thing that did come to mind is if we ignore all the issues and
> complexities of actually implementing annotations, are annotations
> useful to a significant number of userland developers. On the surface,
> (and this is probably where I'm going wrong), it would seem to only
> really be of use to framework developers, and whilst there are at
> least 2.5 frameworks per developer, the vast majority of userland
> developers are not framework developers. So are they useful enough to
> be included at all, or is it just serving a small minority and
> distracting the other core developers?
> 

This isn't right. At a first glance, yes it looks that only framework
developers can have a benefit from annotations in the core. But the
annotations extending the API of a framework so that all developers
which using this frameworks have a great benefit of them.

Lets take as dependency injection as example. If the framework
implements this concept than the user of the framework make the usage of
this. Or the bean validation framework. This is only for the framework
users.

> Is this something that can just be an extension with its own evolution?
> 
> Richard.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Quadling
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