Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49746 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42102 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2010 09:02:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Sep 2010 09:02:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rquadling@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rquadling@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rquadling@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.54 mail-ww0-f54.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.54] ([74.125.82.54:33198] helo=mail-ww0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D2/04-10701-EAE239C4 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 05:02:39 -0400 Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so2094113wwb.11 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:02:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to:from :date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=esE5WskEWZ0KutLwav7h9BOxvPXhWiid4zgMopVNb5o=; b=jSv3Uo5mOHt+X+nZZS1bprjC8nTK5qKvBrEPmoOyWrRHkhwMc4bQJBnp9Ekdz3HtEm /oBEdChZFu6nXPz5K5fDU7m7uyPWsoK3ka4/0MOq8EytuE56zwutMf0n7X/1X2AcTCP6 xdDK5yZTA42UHSb7bWLq2VpiPOVmAlqOoRwfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=SwXM/1xQ3s5zCXm8V7+3qtdR0N82DglJ7Mzoem8raj13ETmYJxPoRHc6v5blOqbmXB GYPdXOUsWglCN+TfgSdRad8aSsjDlOZNy+TB/3F41MeXM/s+IQmYlb3LG2ZrhqwCCJxv U0mIVbjgYSMhdZDl2MYEQZBAt9OjRlmAD0E8s= Received: by 10.216.236.226 with SMTP id w76mr3936713weq.7.1284714155968; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:02:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.0.208 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: RQuadling@googlemail.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:02:10 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: On how a little knowledge is completely useless. From: rquadling@gmail.com (Richard Quadling) Hello all. In trying to follow the annotations threads currently running, I've come to realise just how little I understand a LOT of what I read here. But, then again, I don't need to, so hurrah for me. I try to follow, but, #fail most of the time. One thing that did come to mind is if we ignore all the issues and complexities of actually implementing annotations, are annotations useful to a significant number of userland developers. On the surface, (and this is probably where I'm going wrong), it would seem to only really be of use to framework developers, and whilst there are at least 2.5 frameworks per developer, the vast majority of userland developers are not framework developers. So are they useful enough to be included at all, or is it just serving a small minority and distracting the other core developers? Is this something that can just be an extension with its own evolution? Richard. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY