Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49727 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47505 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2010 19:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2010 19:20:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.123 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.123 smtp123.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.123] ([67.192.241.123:58114] helo=smtp123.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FD/8D-15036-60E629C4 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:20:40 -0400 Received: from relay12.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay12.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5E22F2080713; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay12.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 9A14020806E6; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C926E03.1030109@sugarcrm.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:20:35 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Guilherme Blanco CC: Gustavo Lopes , Derick Rethans , "internals@lists.php.net" References: <4C873C0F.1010200@zend.com> <4C879613.7090709@zend.com> <4C887D2B.2000605@zend.com> <4C8AC526.7000505@sugarcrm.com> <4C8B6168.30504@mohiva.com> <4C8BC81E.8000605@sugarcrm.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100913145703.0d226d90@zend.com> <4C926574.8030805@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP Annotations RFC + Patch From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > I mean that any code packer can degrade the the functionality of your > app. Example: Fix your "code packer" not to do that. > I didn't mean we should stop the discussion. I meant that like many > others over the years lead to nowhere if we don't take the correct > action: vote. How it's the correct action on this stage? We obviously don't have consensus on what this feature should be - we are just looking for a possible solution now. How voting can help? People would just say "yes, I want Annotations" while meaning totally different things by it (or without really understanding what they vote for/against). How that's useful? > So I'd recommend (although I didn't like how it was written) the Java > Annotation wikipedia page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_annotation So, we are voting to have Java annotations in PHP? And people seriously voting FOR it? I mean, after reading all 40+ disjoint pages of the standard describing it in Java, and considering how that would fit PHP, they make an informed decision that that's exactly what PHP needs right now, correct? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227