Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49701 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41459 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2010 13:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2010 13:43:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=listas@rafaeldohms.com.br; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=listas@rafaeldohms.com.br; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rafaeldohms.com.br from 209.85.210.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: listas@rafaeldohms.com.br X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.42 mail-pz0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.42] ([209.85.210.42:60020] helo=mail-pz0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EC/72-29241-70F129C4 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:43:36 -0400 Received: by pzk30 with SMTP id 30so393322pzk.29 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:43:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.132.11 with SMTP id f11mr2841459wfd.35.1284644612838; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.72.132 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:43:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <39505F13-655A-43AF-941E-77750B7F7201@gmail.com> <001601cb543a$d81ebac0$885c3040$@com> <4C8FC695.2060800@sugarcrm.com> <4C8FD72B.1070108@sugarcrm.com> <4C906333.4030204@sugarcrm.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100915085504.17eab4d8@zend.com> <12617cf66ae07d7a2fd79a293ed69b85@beberlei.de> <4C9095D5.1050206@toolpark.com> <000001cb5511$467949f0$d36bddd0$@com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:43:32 -0300 Message-ID: To: Arvids Godjuks Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: PHP Annotations RFC + Patch From: listas@rafaeldohms.com.br (Rafael Dohms) On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > Hi all. > > As a user land developer and active reader (and some times poster) for > a few years now this is the first time I trully don't understand what > the hell are you talking about and what are annotations at all and > what will be the usage of them in the PHP. And for what? Building 2-3 > frameworks and that's all (as I understand from reading this > discussion)? > As a userland user also, its about much more then this, and still, if its just for these frameworks, i'm a user of these frameworks, anything that makes it easier for me to use them or make them faster, i'm in for it. Like the doctrine example, adding a ORM layer on top of my objects just by adding annotations an not extending objects and such is a huge gain in my applications. > I'm sure pretty much user land developers read this thread and ask > themselves the same question. I'm also NOT asking myself this question, so its looks like 2:1 as mentioned above by Tyrael Also, discussing one interest does not stop work on all of the other features/bugs the amount of people reading and discussing here is a small percentage of the team that works on PHP. -- Rafael Dohms PHP Evangelist and Community Leader http://www.rafaeldohms.com.br http://www.phpsp.org.br