Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49689 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80754 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2010 08:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2010 08:05:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.170 mail-iw0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.170] ([209.85.214.170:46167] helo=mail-iw0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/F3-48270-2DFC19C4 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:05:41 -0400 Received: by iwn37 with SMTP id 37so1016978iwn.29 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:05:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4ltw9QIReF1xbzB1u16P3k3Z92nfluhtZnsI5Jj6QjM=; b=I9IbIBV5MFaKhJBXBXDEq+aTBwq+5gAD2aCV2Q2a+WXApYRGFJzXwHj/eqJqEejDU0 3fRjcbcyBSY4BVpVoY7ygnCiqRrcxfDr2UmmtOWDGGU+gqU9PA5U5uje4iTpt6AyqUie fAsl4UdoFJfWXMAeqY+i4Krw5Ok7GMNRagXR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=YqXwl+9W6+K834Qme07NtJ4TYAfhHGPoH1SMpnMyrRKpgGohN32wNYPosYPVm9Xziz 8XqzCVBa3NMPTcGaH4uyDPSukE1LZHDUpNk0Jw6v+cZFoOFe8++qGugQcm0sguaAlUrb uxNhsy5twNonG5CsYKiy1w55aOMRIxHoEKgoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.167.196 with SMTP id r4mr3098107iby.29.1284624334407; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.153.1 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:05:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <39505F13-655A-43AF-941E-77750B7F7201@gmail.com> <001601cb543a$d81ebac0$885c3040$@com> <4C8FC695.2060800@sugarcrm.com> <4C8FD72B.1070108@sugarcrm.com> <4C906333.4030204@sugarcrm.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100915085504.17eab4d8@zend.com> <12617cf66ae07d7a2fd79a293ed69b85@beberlei.de> <4C9095D5.1050206@toolpark.com> <000001cb5511$467949f0$d36bddd0$@com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:05:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 55LIRO9w8qZFU0mIY1WNVfdryxo Message-ID: To: Arvids Godjuks Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450167631f4a5d04905be9fd Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: PHP Annotations RFC + Patch From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --0050450167631f4a5d04905be9fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > Hi all. > > As a user land developer and active reader (and some times poster) for > a few years now this is the first time I trully don't understand what > the hell are you talking about and what are annotations at all and > what will be the usage of them in the PHP. And for what? Building 2-3 > frameworks and that's all (as I understand from reading this > discussion)? > > Did you read the quoted references in this thread? It's a new feature proposal as for example closures or traits, if you don't know what are they, you have to do some work to understand them, but thats all. You should understand the discussion, before choosing your side. > I'm sure pretty much user land developers read this thread and ask > themselves the same question. > dunno, I'm a user land developer, and I don't ask the same question, so it's 1:1 for now. > > P.S. Personally I would take the energy boiling in this thread and > throw it at solving the windows biuld and PECL problem. Right now you > can't install PHP 5.2 and apache on a Windows 7 - it just crashes > totally. Only 5.3 works, not to mention much of the PECL libs just > don't have dll's (lucky if you find one in the Google). The same goes > for the PECL dll's for 5.3 - all of them, excluding the standard once, > mostly are missing and can't be found at all. > party agree here, feel free to open a new thread or issue, but one problem doesn't mean, that we can't discuss other ideas, until that problem is fixed. Tyrael --0050450167631f4a5d04905be9fd--