Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49676 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3529 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2010 20:05:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Sep 2010 20:05:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jbondc@openmv.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jbondc@openmv.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain openmv.com from 64.15.152.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jbondc@openmv.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.152.204 mail.ca.gdesolutions.com Received: from [64.15.152.204] ([64.15.152.204:61612] helo=mail.ca.gdesolutions.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 27/10-33442-EE6219C4 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:05:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ca.gdesolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45E25C23 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:04:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gdesolutions.com Received: from mail.ca.gdesolutions.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ca.gdesolutions.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65h2Wu1g3ZzZ for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from djbondc (modemcable083.208-56-74.mc.videotron.ca [74.56.208.83]) by mail.ca.gdesolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1D75C21 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: References: <39505F13-655A-43AF-941E-77750B7F7201@gmail.com> <001601cb543a$d81ebac0$885c3040$@com> <4C8FC695.2060800@sugarcrm.com> <4C8FD72B.1070108@sugarcrm.com> <4C906333.4030204@sugarcrm.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100915085504.17eab4d8@zend.com> <12617cf66ae07d7a2fd79a293ed69b85@beberlei.de> <4C9095D5.1050206@toolpark.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:04:58 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cb5511$467949f0$d36bddd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActU8a7/8kGZ7JZARdywf7rlv0cTWQACuAXA Content-Language: en-ca Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: PHP Annotations RFC + Patch From: jbondc@openmv.com ("Jonathan Bond-Caron") On Wed Sep 15 12:17 PM, Guilherme Blanco wrote: > I think meta programming is not and would never be part of comment. > As previously said, docblock means documentation, without any meaning=20 > to parser, entirely human readable and totally removable without=20 > affecting overall execution. I have to agree here, there's lots of php tools that 'strip comments'. If you strip comments, you'd be effectively removing 'annotations' which = changes how that code would run in a given framework or tool. It kind of = defeats the purpose. But my opinion as an end user and framework developer: the rfc really needs to elaborate on the use cases *specific to php* java has some here:=20 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=3D250 Does php need to be become this complicated? I worry about how php can grow complicated to a point where you won't be = able to use it without using tool or framework X. I'll use .NET, thank you very much.