Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49650 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68353 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2010 19:22:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 2010 19:22:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.170 mail-wy0-f170.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.170] ([74.125.82.170:48738] helo=mail-wy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C5/66-33442-29BCF8C4 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:22:58 -0400 Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so8011110wyf.29 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:22:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3AQSmTIRSwR/FzBL8gFqv/Z9BEL1oGnA+xZ2YYt8Has=; b=rl1RvdxVjrWPz1vwjKopqSqazI/OZVjP7dqrGFW+2IrEMr4LNKT6XhDATh/RdCiEev or0hTOiXkrLUx8Ck0pwZWOzXsHyZOkm5OymkiNfMmUHZM866lMm9ej6/xl0XgJ6IaD0x vFZy90RO45r+hsbTXwS4djPXFyGpOb2rRlLGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uzDvSPh87R5x1ae7rlL4uIAyBBpzsqR1f6NfAMkCIlN4OD58AfGTUwRognX8aTrDQn DDu0aSnxTUzzFvDiey2DOPgtNLo7QsuJWannQTEsmsTUtzfVZQ1jd/NDKeWBtvVqZa3c J7yGivVKX1X7yLScfPpvWKCmtR2tK4bwIhFPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.141 with SMTP id m13mr320834wbj.143.1284492175402; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.131.72 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:22:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C8FC695.2060800@sugarcrm.com> References: <39505F13-655A-43AF-941E-77750B7F7201@gmail.com> <001601cb543a$d81ebac0$885c3040$@com> <4C8FC695.2060800@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:22:55 +0200 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Jonathan Bond-Caron , Nate Abele , PHP Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: PHP Annotations RFC + Patch From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi Stas, On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Of course not. It couldn't be that your opponents know what they are talking > about, otherwise they'd agree with you :) Come on. Usefullness of > annotations in Java (where they are very different, as the language is) or > C# (which again very different from PHP) or Python (where they again work > totally different from what is proposed) has nothing to do with > acceptability of current implementations. > Is ability to add metadata useful? Of course. But that doesn't mean that any > proposal implementing metadata automatically gets a pass. It is an over interpretation of my reply, which was to a specific mail. The additional comment about nobody having used annotations in other languages (meaning having annotations experiences, not related to clue or lack of clue) was about the proposal like using phpdoc, arguing about the syntax endlessly or even worst, one line reply. That being said, I'm not proposing it and I'm relatively neutral in here. However I am sure that PHP will gain a lot of new nice tools and php based services if we support annotations. If this implementation is not good enough then let us try to improve it, in the most constructive way (that means to leave the other totally unrelated topics behind us :). Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org