Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49617 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98129 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2010 15:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Sep 2010 15:15:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.160.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:59624] helo=mail-pw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 91/A1-24501-2004E8C4 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:15:15 -0400 Received: by pwj9 with SMTP id 9so2440747pwj.29 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.17 with SMTP id s17mr1974943wac.87.1284390911989; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rasmus-Lerdorfs-MacBook-Pro.local (c-98-234-184-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.234.184.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r37sm12242972wak.11.2010.09.13.08.15.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C8E3FFB.9030105@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:15:07 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100825 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FGM at GMail CC: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] WSGI-like SAPI for PHP ? From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 9/13/10 5:24 AM, FGM at GMail wrote: > Having to do some work in Python recently, I had to dig into WSGI and found > that its model, much similar to what JSGI, PSGI, Rack do, seemed likely to > bring a potentially high performance improvement on my usual (Drupal) > environment. This also happened to match a remark done by Rasmus during his > presentation in late August at Drupalcon CPH, in which he advised us to > evolve Drupal towards a model with a long-term application process - PHP or > not, apparently not in his idea (C ?) - to avoid the massive amount of time > and effort currently spent on our per-page bootstrapping process, and return > PHP userland code to the more "templating" parts of the CMS. I think that was some creative listening on your part. I talked about moving the rendering engine to C, not about any sort of persistent application process. -Rasmus