Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49432 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83229 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2010 21:29:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Aug 2010 21:29:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 188.40.37.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.40.37.16 hq1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [188.40.37.16] ([188.40.37.16:38620] helo=hq1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 99/91-04084-FB7646C4 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:29:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A18200C188; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:29:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from hq1.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hq1.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ExqYZvVD6cu; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.1.7] (217-162-131-234.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.131.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by hq1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 997D6200C187; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:29:28 +0200 Cc: Ilia Alshanetsky , Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <4C62EC4A.9020106@sugarcrm.com> <4C6320C9.5060306@sugarcrm.com> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] back to 5.4 alpha From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 12.08.2010, at 00:39, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Ilia Alshanetsky = wrote: >> Pierre, >>=20 >> With all due respect, there are plenty of things already in trunk to >> make it a worth while effort to start planning the 5.4 release. Just >> because you disagree, an opinion you are entitled to (like everyone >> else), does not mean it is a no go, last I checked no one had veto >> powers on the future release process. >=20 > Right, and no one can decide alone when we have to begin a release. > Please understand my point: I'm not saying we won't need to begin > soon, but I do not accept the way it is done, the total lack of > respect of the other core developers and the total lack of roadap, > consensus or general agreement about what will be php-next. +1 regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org