Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49402 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94227 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2010 05:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Aug 2010 05:02:54 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.68 unknown Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:02:54 -0400 Received: from [217.114.211.68] ([217.114.211.68:8512] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3D/80-23169-E70836C4 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 01:02:54 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1281478269.6608.292.camel@guybrush> User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (SunOS) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: X-Posted-By: 217.114.211.68 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Strict typing From: dsp@php.net (David Soria Parra) On 2010-08-11, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > To think that one guy considered that he is allowed to decide to fire > a 5.4, announce it, all that without a single discussion in the public > list is really bad. Even worst is that nobody actually even tries to > say that it is not acceptable. And it happened more than once already. I agree. During 5.3 development we made a step into the right directon of having a slightly more formal release process with more transparency, that includes decisions of active developers and not a decision of one guy. Ongoing discussions offlist do not help here. We should try to focus on the way we want to do the release and not fall back into "who-shot-first-wins". Although I think it's good to have a 5.4 alpha soon, we first should try to clarify the way we want to release it (from trunk, from 5.4 branch with feature merges, RMs, strict typing, etc). - David