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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:31:37 +0200
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Strict typing
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> At 00:58 12/08/2010, Josh Davis wrote:
>>
>> > Now that strict typing is pretty clearly off the table - how would tho=
se
>>
>> Wait, what? Clearly off the table?
>
> Yes, clearly off the table.
>
> I'm not sure how long you've been on internals, but I'm not sure there's =
any
> precedence to such strong and diverse opposition to a feature - amongst b=
oth
> core developers, original authors and the community at large. =A0At least=
 I
> can't remember one in the last 13 years (it's been a long time though, ma=
ybe
> I forgot).

Zeev, I think you underestimate the problem. The hinting (or whatever
is the name of this pointless thing) is the least of the problems we
have right now.

To think that one guy considered that he is allowed to decide to fire
a 5.4, announce it, all that without a single discussion in the public
list is really bad. Even worst is that nobody actually even tries to
say that it is not acceptable. And it happened more than once already.

Yes, I sound and I am negative. Because it is a huge step backward for
the PHP project. And I seriously think that it won't end well if we
continue to act like that.

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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