Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49389 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28962 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2010 22:05:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Aug 2010 22:05:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=daniel.egeberg@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=daniel.egeberg@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: daniel.egeberg@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.42 mail-vw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.42] ([209.85.212.42:53330] helo=mail-vw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/F8-18548-5BE136C4 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:05:41 -0400 Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so566555vws.29 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:05:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=KRb3TNvgJSp3Rd3X604JMgRACr2mUxf89dk6zW3PAEI=; b=wCplwg2Q81Dtda5X04nyhuUQCk5HFfKD3tmapqqbfofB/0YQRFSfQwesGF7NRCbDgd AXd4OYFRhNDMIePHIZ7Jovma1SOny3fBU0fxpApVOkKq6IwK+PK+jTHwmWb715zuVlFw h16pzGNT45BM5LqP28tYoEZClSk5qNp74co1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=ocBkhFEoNB/jbhO700SYolNx5/nxC1E2FY0WrHQfByXV+Al7cUiut7r2CXv3SdP7Es UvYTv5OTPNadWacnKnNwVw6xbL2SX+FqkcfKy95eEMlWrE6sW1qUEQIXyc5RccgU/Qm2 1GkrJADyAqOXNXb+Oqc8iye+YJr7HJMxp3q0M= Received: by 10.220.62.72 with SMTP id w8mr11899871vch.61.1281564339175; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:05:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.100.146 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:05:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100812001106.0ef429b0@zend.com> References: <1281478269.6608.292.camel@guybrush> <4C61E5CA.5070604@sugarcrm.com> <4C61F3EF.5030409@sugarcrm.com> <4C6241D1.6030909@sugarcrm.com> <4C62DBE9.7090008@sugarcrm.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100811213714.1540f338@zend.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100811225519.0ef42c40@zend.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100812001106.0ef429b0@zend.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:05:09 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Josh Davis , Stas Malyshev , Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Strict typing From: daniel.egeberg@gmail.com (Daniel Egeberg) On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 23:26, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Now that strict typing is pretty clearly off the table [...] Did I miss a vote or something? The only thing I've seen is the same small group of people that has been fighting for the last few months. Your reasoning seems to be "there are people who complained, so it's out", but "there are plenty of people who haven't complained, so it's in" is an equally justifiable position to take. Obviously people aren't going to sends loads of "I think everything is perfectly fine"-emails. PS: Can I get a list of the PHP axioms? Seeing as that's apparently how things are decided, it would be nice if people won't have to waste your precious time making obnoxious feature requests that are *clearly* against the PHP axioms. -- Daniel Egeberg