Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49385 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17493 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2010 21:32:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Aug 2010 21:32:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.185 il-mr1.zend.com Received: from [212.25.124.185] ([212.25.124.185:35891] helo=il-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F0/86-18548-8E6136C4 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:32:26 -0400 Received: from il-gw1.zend.com (unknown [10.1.1.21]) by il-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045FB50544 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:32:08 +0300 (IDT) Received: from LAP-ZEEV.zend.com ([10.1.20.50]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:32:21 +0300 Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100812003154.0ef42ed0@zend.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:32:20 +0300 To: Internals In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100812001106.0ef429b0@zend.com> References: <1281478269.6608.292.camel@guybrush> <4C61E5CA.5070604@sugarcrm.com> <4C61F3EF.5030409@sugarcrm.com> <4C6241D1.6030909@sugarcrm.com> <4C62DBE9.7090008@sugarcrm.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100811213714.1540f338@zend.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100811225519.0ef42c40@zend.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100812001106.0ef429b0@zend.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2010 21:32:21.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE3CE960:01CB399C] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Strict typing From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) At 00:26 12/08/2010, Zeev Suraski wrote: >Moving forward with both is certainly not the only option, I'd say >(given the paragraph above) that it's not an option at all. At the >very least, there's one other option which is doing nothing. And >that's assuming we can't reach widespread consensus that >auto-converting type hints are bad. s/bad/good