Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49373 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94673 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2010 19:48:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Aug 2010 19:48:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.185 il-mr1.zend.com Received: from [212.25.124.185] ([212.25.124.185:50159] helo=il-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2D/22-18548-C7EF26C4 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:48:16 -0400 Received: from il-gw1.zend.com (unknown [10.1.1.21]) by il-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EFF504FE; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:47:55 +0300 (IDT) Received: from LAP-ZEEV.zend.com ([10.1.20.50]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:48:08 +0300 Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100811224800.0ef42af8@zend.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:48:04 +0300 To: Stas Malyshev Cc: PHP Internals In-Reply-To: <4C62EC4A.9020106@sugarcrm.com> References: <4C62EC4A.9020106@sugarcrm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2010 19:48:08.0728 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F872180:01CB398E] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] back to 5.4 alpha From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) At 21:30 11/08/2010, Stas Malyshev wrote: >Hi! > >I think by now, whatever you think on strict typing/typehints, it is >clear to everybody that there's no consensus about this feature, and >with Rasmus, Zeev & Andi, along with many others, being against it, >as of now it can not be a part of an official PHP release. > >On the other hand, we have tons of cool features in trunk which >aren't controversial and that we do want people to try out. > >So I'd propose doing the following: > >1. Moving parameter typing to a feature branch (by branching current >trunk and then rolling back the typing part in the trunk). >2. Starting 5.4 alpha process after that basing on trunk. > >Any objections to this? > >People that like the typing can still have them in the branch (and >they can keep the branch as current as they want) and if we ever See >The Light (TM) and want typed scalar parameters back, they're only a >merge away. > >What do you think? +1