Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49306 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13007 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2010 02:07:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Aug 2010 02:07:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.42 mail-fx0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.42] ([209.85.161.42:40501] helo=mail-fx0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 02/84-20356-8F5026C4 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:07:53 -0400 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14so1225824fxm.29 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:07:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z+AOeCy/qCrM/ZAET6xtcvBU9ZxZGDvALVZv/mWSDnc=; b=ozSzv4LtjEfQNfPAC5MixPcLcilSVtDmVaSAqBod09mEHCBJFl16NB/jX8q0F3UlkU HIr0J0d6zde/2H6C/JDTP54/YBf45hDZnSVYDaFyUQevgQr7Vq6EAu45zndzRlBUZdo1 1cOp0FobyFS5/rDatKxDhOq8VKmESUZbA87VM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gDXzcxhN+LUllTfoqmwhJPVZwtxKR4sjPQJGXC4ovyn+npyK8Ih3nJWQ+0msPasnPD p5AT9SELKC2agRR9KAJyhHREek+hu5awQGEi0GaBxFRAwGoMpsPD0uGenFd8z/ItgV7b lPaXyjLyDw8qATTK4rIymRUvYXUOXLlSQBJZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.122.146 with SMTP id l18mr19086180far.82.1281492469596; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.119.14 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:07:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C616E48.9080309@php.net> References: <1281429940.969.2093.camel@guybrush> <255073A3-5250-4962-875A-7B2E69E40A48@pooteeweet.org> <1281450642.969.2575.camel@guybrush> <4C616E48.9080309@php.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 04:07:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Sebastian Bergmann Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Version management From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wro= te: > Am 10.08.2010 17:14, schrieb Derick Rethans: >> I think our current way work pretty well. There is 5.2 which is >> security-fix supported, 5.3 that is supported and trunk/5.4 that's on >> the way to alpha. > > =A0This only works if manage to keep the time between "new code is > =A0committed to trunk" and "new code is released" under a year. Otherwise > =A0developers get frustrated. > > =A0If we manage to release a PHP 5.X.0 release every year, we are a lot > =A0more predictable. Which is good for downstream as well. That's exactly what I keep asking. It also requires some changes about features addition in stable releases, bugs fixes and release life cycles. All these words sounds like a nightmare to Derick&co, but that's something we have to go through. It is the only way to have controllable and plan-able releases (for us, our users and the distros). Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org