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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 02:02:43 +0200
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Subject: Time for a change.
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi,

Announcing what?

I do not know where and when you talked to Derick but seriously, it
does not matter. At all.

For one, there is no release decision yet. No need to say that there
is no RM either. Not you, and certainly not Derick (no offense meant,
but what is happening right now is the perfect reason why I'm against
Derick as RM, no matter the release).

A couple of developers think they can and must discuss everything
privately and consider their decisions or choices as valid. That is
not the case.

We need to step back and change the way we work, the way communicate,
between us (core) and even more important, with our users. I do not
consider the way we work as the right way.

Now, I urge everyone to sit down, take a big breath and look back the
pain that was the 5.3.0 release (could mention php6 too but we all
know why it failed).

Let take a moment(um) to rethink the way we work and get us more
productive, friendly and work as a team, as we should.

Cheers,
--
Pierre

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