Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49292 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83230 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 22:51:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 22:51:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=scott@macvicar.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=scott@macvicar.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain macvicar.net from 97.107.131.220 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: scott@macvicar.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 97.107.131.220 whisky.macvicar.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [97.107.131.220] ([97.107.131.220:55477] helo=whisky.macvicar.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F5/56-61991-4D7D16C4 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:51:01 -0400 Received: from [172.24.141.51] (out1-1601fw.corp.tfbnw.net [66.220.144.27]) by whisky.macvicar.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A274468CC; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <1281478269.6608.292.camel@guybrush> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:50:56 -0700 Cc: Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals , Derick Rethans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <19474ED4-F5B5-4DC5-83C7-7F3C8E553C93@macvicar.net> References: <1281478269.6608.292.camel@guybrush> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Annoucing PHP 5.4 Alpha 1 From: scott@macvicar.net (Scott MacVicar) On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 00:03 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: >> type hinting >=20 > For the record: I consider the current implementation as (one of) the > biggest mistakes in the last ten years. >=20 > johannes I'm happy to see a more strict implementation, but I think our numeric = handling needs changed. We silently fall between them all in PHP. Sure = we can guarantee array, null, bool, resource, string etc but not the = numeric types. I think we should hold off on the Alpha until we're agreed with thats = happening with that. - S