Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49257 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83188 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 14:51:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 14:51:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.42 mail-fx0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.42] ([209.85.161.42:55844] helo=mail-fx0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3F/13-61991-551616C4 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:25:26 -0400 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14so753512fxm.29 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:25:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pkEElSeF7eJLdfSic8V6nbPeUCp9FEchPXCnbue7JRw=; b=MJzfA2pkh5hMZX445c5HqKXOKLcTasFK9xKXkL8Zu6cDpRkNGqhaZoRVRT3eD5B2uo 21TFJOvqst8ijhww3KD7j0G8sx1X2Rm5ViqAWskiODFEAtnVTQiDMIn/FzvIZrP4YIaf N+v/cDbrEmwUHoFUWZ3JMiLwm///s1TOsw5vQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VEhEIf9ge0XHrDhktuHe0S2MNUxOWI6hB9cLC4FOZpv6zXYHaLzGAuA7+pBkKjAShk kB8QXjik5rEf2Nx6Co/lxatnpoZZX/eFD4mG2SdM/JHgOE6ATrr+O69I4riGtX17T7Ls fUvUuz1KOIZ356lpMvqiCHG07xT4aXhiD4foM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.204 with SMTP id g12mr18303127fap.21.1281450323229; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.119.14 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:25:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <255073A3-5250-4962-875A-7B2E69E40A48@pooteeweet.org> References: <1281429940.969.2093.camel@guybrush> <255073A3-5250-4962-875A-7B2E69E40A48@pooteeweet.org> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:25:23 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lukas Kahwe Smith Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Adam Harvey , Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 Alpha? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) 2010/8/10 Lukas Kahwe Smith : > > On 10.08.2010, at 10:45, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote: > >> On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 10:19 +0800, Adam Harvey wrote: >> >> Yes. Release early, release often is a good thing. What I'd also like is >> to have a Ubuntu-like support model. Where we have one LTS (long term >> supported) version (now for instance 5.3) which will get bug fixes for >> quite some time and an "early access" version (5.4) which will receive >> updates until the next "early access" (5.5) is there. >> >> Reasons: >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0* Give people early access to features >> =A0 =A0 =A0* Motivate developers as their additions are in a reachable f= uture >> =A0 =A0 =A0* Give users the chance to stay on the LTS version without ha= ving >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to do the full update on every release >> =A0 =A0 =A0* Reduce the number of changes in "bugfix" releases > > > Is LTS really something we need to provide? Seems to me like this is some= thing the linux vendors take care of for the most part. Of course this leav= es windows, OSX (and maybe some others). We have to provide a well defined life cycle for our releases. The way we do it now is not good, not for linux distros and not for developers. It is impossible to get a mid term visibility. Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org