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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 Alpha?
From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith)


On 10.08.2010, at 10:45, Johannes Schl=FCter wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 10:19 +0800, Adam Harvey wrote:
>=20
> Yes. Release early, release often is a good thing. What I'd also like =
is
> to have a Ubuntu-like support model. Where we have one LTS (long term
> supported) version (now for instance 5.3) which will get bug fixes for
> quite some time and an "early access" version (5.4) which will receive
> updates until the next "early access" (5.5) is there.
>=20
> Reasons:
>=20
>      * Give people early access to features
>      * Motivate developers as their additions are in a reachable =
future
>      * Give users the chance to stay on the LTS version without having
>        to do the full update on every release
>      * Reduce the number of changes in "bugfix" releases


Is LTS really something we need to provide? Seems to me like this is =
something the linux vendors take care of for the most part. Of course =
this leaves windows, OSX (and maybe some others).

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
mls@pooteeweet.org