Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49255 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72648 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 13:46:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 13:46:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name from 209.85.216.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.42 mail-qw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.42] ([209.85.216.42:36208] helo=mail-qw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 35/B1-61991-028516C4 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:46:08 -0400 Received: by qwb8 with SMTP id 8so9083059qwb.29 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.65.95 with SMTP id h31mr9662917qai.116.1281447965571; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:46:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.229.61.65 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1281429940.969.2093.camel@guybrush> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:45:45 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gRYe8dCqkQDRLnJEy-axegZdylE Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 Alpha? From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) 2010/8/10 Derick Rethans : > That's exactly what we have now: 5.2, 5.3 and trunk. I think your LTS > idea is way too optimistic. I really don't care about porting bug fixes > back to 5.2 because it is *four* years old. PHP 5.3 has been out for a > year. Right now there are not many API differences, but it *does* cost > extra time to maintain. Time we should rather spend on getting new > things out. Leave the 5.2 support to the distributions! In terms of backporting fixes (talking more generally about the three branch model and not so much about 5.2 in particular), between PHP and other projects I'm involved with, I'm acutely aware of the pain there. Honestly, though, I'm not entirely comfortable just leaving it up to distributions: plenty of people run hand-built versions of PHP, and testing large codebases with new branches of PHP isn't always as quick a process as it should be. Or, put another way, just because I'm lucky enough to be able to run my code on the bleeding edge doesn't mean I don't feel a little bit obligated towards people who aren't that lucky. :) Adam