Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49144 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27704 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2010 10:55:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2010 10:55:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 195.34.141.34 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.34.141.34 mail.thelounge.net Windows 98 (1) Received: from [195.34.141.34] ([195.34.141.34:40069] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 54/46-13626-C381C4C4 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 06:55:57 -0400 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (local.rhsoft.net [84.113.45.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A3C1C4; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:55:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C4C1839.2060307@thelounge.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:55:53 +0200 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100721 Remi/fc12 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karoly Negyesi CC: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4F16BA721C21847EBF37B9B2" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Please reconsider supporting PHP 5.2 From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enig4F16BA721C21847EBF37B9B2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 25.07.2010 11:17, schrieb Karoly Negyesi: > This is a very interesting decision as 5.3.0, compatibility wise, is a > major release. I always felt it was PHP 6.0 but it was not called so > because there was a development branched called that (which was later > abandoned). This is simply not true A clean designed application has to run the whole time with error_reporting =3D E_ALL | E_STRICT and so you should have seen the problems long ago > This broke Drupal 6 big time and while core has been fixed, contrib is > a bit slower to adapt. Previously, it was possible to pass in simply > NULL if you did not care about the by-reference argument. The problem is that the developers of drupal, joomla, wordpress are not working error_reporting =3D E_ALL | E_STRICT as i do since teh first day i use php even on production servers While 122 installations of our own software throwing up to 10 warnings a month many other software rides a DOS-attack against mysql if rsyslog is using a database > Also, the deprecation of ereg will affect Drupal 6 over its lifetime > as the module install / enable functionality uses ereg in a way that > can't be fixed: as it is not on a performance critical code path noone > bothered to rewrite the truly ancient directory scanning function > which takes an ereg as it's argument earlier. And we can't break APIs > in a minor release so this can only change in Drupal 7 which is poised > to be released in a few months. Seems that you do not understand what deprecated means? See that such calls are using a @ before to not make crazy peopole like me with thousands of warnings and you have time enough to clean your code > Then there is the date_default_timezone_set / date.timezone snafu. If this is a problem the sysadmin did not his job date.timezone =3D "Europe/Vienna" in php.ini exists since years an dshould be set in all clan server setups --------------enig4F16BA721C21847EBF37B9B2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Remi - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxMGDkACgkQhmBjz394Anl9qACeMYswUW9YomG894EiQTv94bRt K6sAoJuhZhG+ASHjp6tCy/m51FtQGYNH =Z48n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4F16BA721C21847EBF37B9B2--