Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:49001 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36990 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2010 02:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Jul 2010 02:47:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ssufficool@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ssufficool@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ssufficool@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.42 mail-vw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.42] ([209.85.212.42:41494] helo=mail-vw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/AF-33717-156FF2C4 for ; Sat, 03 Jul 2010 22:47:46 -0400 Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20so5376522vws.29 for ; Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:47:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Oq9/5NfMvCFt0yVQSkozIxN8SNJD1L7jdYm2a47JTmM=; b=Nz8pE1LVHgECCiCzamPpRjwJ2eUWGx2Q0BhRpXOe1bLG4Sw0z8DWlHMEy4Io9xzcIc fmgKkyytFXYoUinmAUaZpsCLaJS1JRggah4+PJPMbf+mUAMo3bHMGaif7VvdJded4s6F dvanDPcl5nyOkmJ1vYFzgE6IMC31h03O78Uuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ojMxbNAU/vkmK8R0OaoTeIgfa3kIqdHQHbsEfHU6eL0dE2MJxfUT+1bszsskb5UHKm 9fcI1jkYLVbjZQbXI6OPNsHQPXttfZ+Gi9aFcao3NSujmRQJVk9FrTlVmidL/IBnLY21 oYSaebJbEwdHTgiEmjMbR9ra3yvvkJShMzxn8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.169.21 with SMTP id w21mr485817vcy.202.1278211663261; Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.90.15 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jul 2010 19:47:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C2E0984.5040607@oracle.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 19:47:43 -0700 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Christopher Jones , Ilia Alshanetsky , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO DBLIB Release Candidate? From: ssufficool@gmail.com (Stanley Sufficool) On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, > > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Stanley Sufficool wrote: > >> I would argue that the additional fixes in trunk fix bugs rather than >> introducing new functionality since they were already in the PDO >> specification and they do not break BC. I do not see why this would be >> held out of releases. > > They should, only not right now in 5.3.3/5.2.14 as we are in the > second release candidates. The reasons why we should not begin to > apply dozen of patches at this stage are rather obvious, hopefully :). > Got it. Thanks. > >> FWIW, Microsoft has a monopoly on a fully functional PDO mssql driver >> which is only implemented on MS platforms. If we want portability of >> PHP applications, then the PDO DBLIB driver must be fully functional >> on releases. > > That's not correct. PHP 5.3+ has no SqlServer support on Windows. The > SqlSrv driver is more than welcome as it solves this problem. The PDO > support is still beta (CTP2). However all other platforms do have > SqlServer support by default in the core. Sorry, I was incorrect, the Microsoft PDO SqlServer is still in release candidate stages. I'm just hoping to have an on-par PDO implementation available on all platforms before everyone starts coding for the platform dependent driver. > >> BTW, This extension is experimental and subject to change. Well it >> did, and they were warned. > > Hence the worries? :) I am saying that this extension on the PHP doc pages is marked as experimental and as such the users should not expect the behavior to stay consistent. But none-the-less, the patches do not affect any _existing_ behavior. So no worries. :) > > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org >