Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48971 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74086 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2010 10:27:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2010 10:27:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 72.14.220.154 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.14.220.154 fg-out-1718.google.com Received: from [72.14.220.154] ([72.14.220.154:50544] helo=fg-out-1718.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/37-30296-774842C4 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:27:04 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so2330310fge.11 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:27:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=X8KXyhs5W1TO2ExbS1gvial8hnqQves/OOMlq9VKj6Q=; b=MP77VJMjVSKReOM5f4/kIzNuSReiPC9l8hJWL5FgTOFWwmEXImUoz1poxa9ni451us rzFXp0sNQb8dmpcsLnUeFtiqHeGAUG4OZb/qegOSpe4nwiah2TxcPnkzMBwualfiLMF4 ohBkUqfaCTHKQ9qqmSGxSqQGYW+8MJx7nW3Z0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=UvQgpcu4v3KdnZtwEtPRFZPE6eQFQMTK/9awkpo3ydOKNvhOQLRMPrpNFBLYM4EMFE EHGThPT1IrjxgDtNH5TsWURGDgQoVgSyMpdH7c9MHGEdcbRn5FUejRG4Mtv3su4xbP1R PFEuEepIUkjIK1e6fPDShc/dw0I0J605oWYoE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.47.3 with SMTP id z3mr748628fgj.74.1277461620904; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.113.143 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:27:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:27:00 +0200 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals , Rasmus Lerdorf , gopalv@php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: APC in trunk From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > I had a bit of a chat with Gopal about this the other day. And he > reckoned it'd be smarter to go with the current trunk. Reasons he > mentioned that he has very little idea what went on in 4_0 and he feels > that 4_0 is turning APC sortof into memcache, with way too many complex > caching layers. This description is somehow not correct. The idea of the 4.x branch is to allow more flexibility to the memory layer in APC. Features like per site cache (think security here) or more fine grained caching requires this redesign. That's something critical for shared hosts (which is the reason why we should bundle an opcode cache) as dedicated hosts can install it easily already. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org