Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48970 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62964 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2010 09:21:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2010 09:21:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:49140] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 45/25-30296-705742C4 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:21:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (xdebug.org [127.0.0.1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1D27DFF27; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:21:08 +0100 (BST) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.derickrethans.nl To: Pierre Joye cc: Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals , Rasmus Lerdorf , gopalv@php.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: APC in trunk From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > > > >> It seems like theres been enough votes for moving it to the core, is > >> there anyone willing to make that change? Rasmus or Derick? We can > >> always decide whether to enable it by default afterwards. > > > > I can do it; but the question is whether we want to use APC 3.x or 4.x > > in trunk? Gopal, Rasmus? > > For one, I would prefer to see 4.x but I'm not sure it is ready yet. > However 4.x also needs the changes applied to support recent > optimizations in the engine (they have been applied to trunk only). I > would suggest to do the merges prior to include it. I had a bit of a chat with Gopal about this the other day. And he reckoned it'd be smarter to go with the current trunk. Reasons he mentioned that he has very little idea what went on in 4_0 and he feels that 4_0 is turning APC sortof into memcache, with way too many complex caching layers. I feel inclined to follow his advice... even more because he's the lead dev :-) cheers, Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug