Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:48922 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41078 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2010 15:34:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2010 15:34:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike503@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike503@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike503@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:57994] helo=mail-pw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C7/D6-04556-C868F1C4 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:34:40 -0400 Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so1572401pwi.29 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:34:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=jlhZgv3SZqme+75kvXZ/9e5m0A6lp3hQovGJV4J1Ceg=; b=r1BiNYSPud1MLphtEgBIpFMe/eXH/gxYdOzSCScOTYMfbkUZ4TS+XsJ7sySX2+CPvH ZsRPgAksRgdkAm4d/lgzBRNCeNlyFtLD08/knGEd3Sg04WurXK4iUhbO1vD5oxg7S0dV p+Zn2AsPHJZ9RQGZuEvtr9B3tpLAuP4Ih4wXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=kD+tb9M4Js00rN0XzvqnUh1Aa/MOB9KXqQmeJd/3Iz12rHgdvmTvPDMyvNKpp3+fk5 P+4W/aAGRYbynF++57vBDucbQ2HXAihsej+4uBr5cHT1oa2OC/Dr7sHqQnNgRyvIYfO/ saSMNJI5uIiCRy9h6jPq4OEGeNdcUTL/5N6Ik= Received: by 10.115.65.27 with SMTP id s27mr4043235wak.144.1277134458614; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.153] (pool-98-108-131-200.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [98.108.131.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h9sm16928748wal.0.2010.06.21.08.34.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:34:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <4C1EA662.1010601@sugarcrm.com> <49B64FA1-1BAA-4C88-AC9D-09E75792F05C@seancoates.com> <4C1ED20E.8050805@sugarcrm.com> <4C1EDA4B.9070300@sugarcrm.com> <4C1EDCFE.307@sugarcrm.com> <20100621123212.GA67066@devsys.jaguNET.com> <4C1F6025.4070300@daylessday.org> In-Reply-To: <4C1F6025.4070300@daylessday.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A293) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <19DE295C-4BCD-42A3-BFB0-322D7AA23110@gmail.com> Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A293) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:33:12 -0700 To: Antony Dovgal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] APC in trunk From: mike503@gmail.com (Michael Shadle) I would like to know why a third party can develop a better (or more agile?)= cache than the core php devs. I would think that if anyone can align it ni= cely especially when writing the core code itself and could also think about= "this is a great place for apc to hook in" or something. It's obvious due t= o the strong feelings that this is a controversial point due to how well oth= er options work. As a user myself I have to ask "why can't there be one that= encompasses all the best of all of them" On Jun 21, 2010, at 5:50 AM, Antony Dovgal wrote: > On 06/21/2010 04:32 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> As a PHP user, when moving to PHP 5.3, from 5.2 I had the question >> regarding which accel to use (I had been using APC). =46rom most >> of what I read, APC was not compatible and looking at the APC site, >> the last 'stable' release was ~2years ago with a bunch of betas. I >> then looked at XCache and saw that it was "more maintained" as well >> as explicitly mentioned PHP 5.3 compatibility. >>=20 >> In other words, to the unwashed masses, XCache, for example, >> seemed a "better" and "safer" choice than APC, despite the >> list of names attached to the latter. >=20 > We've been experiencing some troubles with APC + 5.3, too,=20 > so I tried switching to XCache and my experience is described here: > http://xcache.lighttpd.net/ticket/240 > Judging by XCache SVN, there were no changes since then. >=20 > So we're still using APC + 5.3 in production, even though=20 > I get a core now and then (weird, last segfault was ~2 weeks ago..). >=20 > --=20 > Wbr, > Antony Dovgal > --- > http://pinba.org - realtime statistics for PHP >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20